Massillon Plays for the Ring

I don’t remember the first time I walked into Paul Brown Tiger Stadium. I was just a kid. It was the seventies. I have no idea what game it was, who won, or how old I was. But I do know where I sat. Section 14. Row S. Seat 4. How can I know that if I don’t know where or when the game was and I was just a little kid? Because I have never sat in any other row. My father became a Massillon Tigers season ticket holder in the sixties and he always sat in Section 14. Row S. Seat 1. My mother in Seat 2. My brother in Seat 3. And eventually, when I was old enough, I parked in Seat 4. I didn’t understand what was going on in the game, but I loved seeing the real Tiger in the cage, I loved hearing the band, I loved watching the adults around me get excited. When they stood up and cheered, I stood up and cheered. I always brought my binoculars with me, not so I could see the game better, but so I could pretend I was a cameraman who was filming the game for television. I always wanted to be a part of the Tigers in some way. For me, it was to pretend I was covering the game for ABC sports.

The occupants of those four seats can basically tell the story of the ups and downs of the Ryan family tree. Who was in the family and who was out. Who was healthy or not. So many people rotated around those seats. Children created children and they took seats, bringing friends and lovers. Other people have photo albums, in Massillon; you have ticket stubs. (Well, you used to, now you have some stupid thing on your phone that may or may not scan. Who misses the orange playoff ticket? Anyone? I’ve gotten off track.) The point is the occupants of those seats may not remain a constant in my life, but the Tigers always have. There isn’t one person still sitting in any of the adjacent seats who were there when I was going to the games as a kid. They have all either passed away or gave up the dream. But I’m still there, still believing in the goal. It’s always been the Tigers. Currence, Maronto, Owens, Rose, Shephas, Stacy, Hall, and now, Nate Moore. All the head coaches during my time. At least that is a higher number than the numbers of wives that have sat with me at the games.

While I may not remember every game I saw, I sure remember the 100th Massillon-McKinley game. Of course, I remember Moeller’s Hail Mary pass and their last second win. I remember crying. I recently told Becca Moore this story about crying when we lost that game. I looked up the game to see how old I was since I cried. I figured I was 10. Oops, I was 22. I know there is no crying in baseball, but did Tom Hanks ever weigh in on football? I remember that time we scored over 100 points and somehow Massillon got in trouble for that. One thing that has never changed is how the media covers Massillon. There is no accomplishment that can’t be held against us in a court of words.

I vividly remember when St. Ignatius scored 35 points right away in what has to be the worst beating Massillon ever took in an opening quarter. I remember it more than any other game because it was the last game that my dad sat in those seats with me. He was gone by the next game. In Massillon, losing a parent means the transfer of the tickets. What was his became mine and someday what is mine will become my son’s. It was strange to see the first game without my dad. And it was heartbreaking that he never got to see Massillon win a playoff regulation State Championship. We got to watch the 1982 and 2005 state championship game together, but we didn’t see a win. Even with all the years of him being gone, I have still held on to his hope of Massillon winning one on the field as diligently as I have held onto his season tickets. Section 14. Row S. Seats 1-4. This Thursday a trigeneration wish can come true. My father to me to my son. The Massillon Tigers are playing for a state championship and this time, they are favored to win.

The 2023 Massillon Tiger Team, surrounded by the alumni, at the Thanksgiving Practice.

So it’s true that I didn’t have a choice in going to the Massillon games when I was a little kid, I’ve certainly, actively, chosen to go since 1988 when I was officially an adult. I went to the games when I lived in Massillon, went to the games when I lived in Columbus and now I stream the games from Florida. Last year I drove from Florida to see Hoban beat Massillon in the State Semi’s. Then drove back the next day. That is dedication. Actually that is stupidity, it was Thanksgiving weekend and traffic was horrible. We ended the season on a loss last year, exactly as we have done each and every year that I have gone to the games. It always hurts. Your hopes are so damn high and then it is pulled away from you like a magician pulling a tablecloth off a perfectly set table. Except that all the dishes break and the candelabra sets the whole damn world on fire. It hurt each time a Catholic school ended our season in the State Championship games of 2018, 2019 and 2020. It hurts every time that clock hits zero and the season is over. Each time I swear I won’t get sucked into the dream again. Then, next season happens and I’m back watching everyone shake their heads when I say, “I swear I’ll only have a sip.” I can’t just have a sip, I want the whole bottle.

In each of those years, I have never let my imagination go to that moment of the clock ticking down with a win. Not only have we never won the championship on the field, we’ve never won it in my mind. Let’s imagine there is a State Championship game and it’s the fourth quarter and Massillon is up by three scores and there is only a minute left. The clock goes 10, 9, 8, and by it hits 7, my mind shuns the thought away. I don’t know what I would do if we won. I don’t even know how to imagine it. How do you imagine something that you have never experienced and you’ve waited 53 years for? I do know that it won’t really change anything. My dad won’t know we won. People who hate Massillon will still hate Massillon. The town will still want to beat McKinley in 2024 and go undefeated again. Nothing will change. And also: everything will change. 10, 9, 8, 7 … NO! Not yet. In 5 days.

Be sure to watch Becca Moore and Scott Ryan on the Youtube Series: Tiger Talk

For the past two years I have been able to host a weekly series called Tiger Talk. I get to interview head coach of the Massillon Tigers Nate Moore and two players every week with my dear friend and co-host Becca Moore. Becca doesn’t understand the kindness she has given me by agreeing to do this show. She has welcomed me into the Tiger’s inner circle. Nate and her have trusted me to do skits, ask silly questions, and shine a positive light on everything I love about being a Massillon Tiger fan. That little kid who used to bring his binoculars to every game, wishing to be a part of the Tigers, now doesn’t have to pretend anymore. I am hosting a show about it. My dad never got to watch the show, but my Mom, my son, my wife, and my Aunt get to. The score is all about winning, but the game is all about family. The Tigers will try to win for my family and all the families that are just like mine. So what will winning be like? How can I know? It’s never happened before. One thing I do know, I won’t be able to take just a sip of that feeling of finally winning after 53 years. I will drink down the whole experience. Then I will return to Section 14. Row S. Seat 1.

Go Tigers. Beat Hoban.

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Read about the Massillon Tiger’s 2019 State Championship run in the book: 15 for 15.

Interview with Lynch/Oz Director

Alexandre O. Philippe has directed many films about films. His specialty is to take something we know well (the shower scene in Psycho, the fights between fans of Star Wars and George Lucas) and make us see things in a new way. In his latest film Lynch/Oz, he creates a documentary that digs deep into how The Wizard of Oz influenced the films of David Lynch.

The poster for Lynch/OZ

I was able to interview Philippe at the Dallas Lynch Retrospective moments after seeing the film for the first time. Now, after much thought, and settling down a bit, I invited him to be my guest on It’s Our Time with Scott Ryan. We discuss how he came up with the idea of just using film clips, why Lynch fans should see this in the theater over at home, and a bit about his favorite Lynch film, Lost Highway. You can head out Janus Films to get the schedule of where the film will play and you can watch my interview right here.

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It’s the End of The Red Room as We Know it and I Feel Fine

Whenever you log into one of your online accounts and see a red banner going across the screen, you know something bad is about to happen.

The Red Room Podcast started in July 2010. We have hosted our podcast, which has broadcast 215 episodes, on Hipcast for the majority of that time. When I logged in to upload the latest episode, the banner read: Hipcast.com ceasing operations on December 31, 2022.

Proving that I truly was destined to have a podcast about television, the first thing I thought of was the final episode of Moonlighting. The show, which we have covered more than a few times on this podcast and I wrote a book about, ended with the statement: Blue Moon Investigations ceased operations on May 14, 1989. The Red Room Podcast will do the same on December 31, 2022.

Josh Minton came up with this silly idea twelve years ago. He tried to sweet talk me into co-hosting with him by calling it the Red Room. He didn’t know a thing about Twin Peaks at the time, he has since written a book a few times on the subject, but he knew I loved it and thought that would make me do it. Joke was on him, I had no idea what a podcast was. I would have been happy to talk TV with anyone back then.

In 2010, podcasts were still kinda new. It wasn’t like it is now: all full of ads (which we have never done), celebrity hosts (which we will never be), and all kinds of safe areas for safe speech (which I have never been capable of). I only made one demand of Josh and that was that we take it very seriously. In fact, if you listen to the first four years of the podcast, you will hear a very un-funny Scott. I remember when I met a few Twin Peaks friends (I’m looking at you Tony) at the first festival, they couldn’t believe that I was funny. (My wife still thinks I’m not funny.) I wanted to be serious on the podcast and not waste anyone’s time. I am not sure that we achieved that goal, but we sure tried. Once I started guesting on Twin Peaks Unwrapped all the time, I let a little more humor slip into the Red Room, but I still always tried to host an episode like it was on NPR.

I won’t waste anyone’s time here discussing highlights or low bars of the past 215 episodes. (We only had to take one episode down due to legal action so 214 still exist.) I enjoyed hosting with Josh and without. Josh and I learned a ton and tried to share that knowledge with our listeners. I Met David Bushman, Courtenay Stallings, John Thorne, Ben Durant, Bryon Kozaczka, Brad Dukes, and Mark Altman through the podcast—all who became friends in real life. That means the most to me.

So why tell you and why not save it?

I am telling you because you have one month to download any episode that you feel the need to keep. We are told that on December 31 they will delete all the files. This will include my side podcasts: Scott Luck Stories where I told comic short stories from my youth which spawned my first book, and the thirtysomething Podcast, where I interviewed the cast of thirtysomething which spawned my second book. So if there is something you want, download it. But also, it is OK to just let it slip away into the fog of the internet.

You can find me on YouTube through The Blue Rose Magazine’s YouTube channel, where I will still interview people when it comes my way. Ben & Bryon graciously have said I can post on their Twin Peaks Unwrapped Podcast if I get an interview with someone who is getting a rug delivered. Until then, follow me on Twitter @Scottluckstory or @FMPbooks (while Twitter still exists.)

When the Red Room started I was answering phones at the expense of my spirit at a soulless call center. Now I run a publishing company, I have written several books, and Sheryl Lee knows my name. Not sure I could ask for anything more. Thank you so much to everyone who ever listened and shared an episode of the Red Room.

We are not saving the podcast because honestly these episodes are so old they don’t carry a ton of value beyond nostalgia, and we all learned from The Return that nostalgia is for chumps. Also, if we moved the podcast all the Google and website links would be broken, and we would have to basically start over. A podcast with two non-famous white guys just isn’t where the world is at right now. It’s time for a new generation to take over and suggest what to watch. People wanna binge reality TV on their phones. That, in itself, is a good reason for this old guy to step aside.

I still have my VHS Twin Peaks box set of Episodes 1-7. The quality of those VHS episodes aren’t anywhere near the High Res versions on iTunes or Paramount Plus, but they are mine. I can touch them. I can hold them. I can own them. I still have my R2-D2 action figure from Star Wars from 1977. It is mine. A company can’t go out of business and take it from me. I own Billy Joel’s The Bridge vinyl record that I bought in 1986. If Spotify dies tomorrow, I can still hear “Big Man On Mulberry Street” which played in my favorite episode of Moonlighting. I own those episodes, too. I like owning my art. I never owned the Red Room. They were out there for listeners and now they are not. That is the way of new media. So if this article returns to Moonlighting, let’s end the same way.

The Red Room Podcast ceased operations on December 31, 2022.

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The Music of Barbra Streisand Podcast

Barbra Streisand has been recording music for over sixty years and Matt Howe has written the first book that covers EVERY album, single, and song. Scott Ryan interview Author Matt Howe and Streisand’s co-director for her concert tours Richard Jay-Alexander (who also was involved in bringing Miss Saigon, Les Mis, Phantom and many other shows to Broadway.)

The publishing company FMP (Laura’s Ghost, Last Days of Letterman) is releasing Howe’s book Barbra Streisand: The Music, The Albums, The Singles on April 24, 2023. Preorders are open now and help with printing costs. Listen to this podcast interview to hear Richard tell stories of songs Streisand tried in rehearsal, but never performed, how she decides on what to sing, and learn some of his favorite moments working with Team Streisand. Matt gives a preview of the book and there is plenty of music to keep you busy.

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Surprise Guest from FWWM Interview

Listen to this episode of The Red Room Podcast before your friend does. Scott Ryan interviews someone from Fire Walk With Me that has NEVER been interviewed before. No clues here. Just listen and enjoy. This interview is to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Fire Walk With Me. Special Thanks to Dugpa and Steven Miller for doing the research. You won’t want to miss this podcast. Also be sure to pick up Scott Ryan’s book about Fire Walk With Me that interviews Sheryl Lee (Laura Palmer) and cast and crew. Also subscribe to the latest issue of the Blue Rose magazine which covers Lost Highway or preorder Scott’s upcoming Lost Highway book.

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Joe Dougherty Interview

Screenwriter Joseph Dougherty (thirtysomething, Pretty Little Liars) has written a new book about writing. They say write what you know, and Joe has over 30 years of experience on writing television and movies. He joins host Scott Ryan to talk about Joe’s new book: A Screenwriter’s Companion that will take readers and future writers through the steps, the heartbreaks and the successes of being a writing. With how to exercisers and stories from his work on thirtysomething and Pretty Little Liars, this book has everything a writer needs to start his journey. You can ordered a signed copy by Joe, by clicking here. (You can also pick up thirtysomething at thirty where Joe wrote the Afterword.)

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David Lynch Film Festival in Chicago

Daniel Knox joins The Red Room to discuss his upcoming, week long, David Lynch Film Festival at the Music Box Theatre in Chicago. You can get tickets by clicking here.

Listen to Scott and Daniel explain the week, what is going on and what to expect. Scott will be on hand all week long to do the Q&A’s with Charlotte Stewart and Duwayne Dunham. Scott will also be selling The Blue Rose’s new subscription and his new Fire Walk With Me book. Come see EVERY Lynch film in 35MM on the big screen.

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Fire Walk With Me Discussion

Authors of Fire Walk With Me books are hard to find, but the latest Red Room Podcast has 2 of them. Lindsay Hallam (Devil’s Advocate: Fire Walk With Me) interviews Scott Ryan (Fire Walk With Me: Your Laura Disappeared, The Blue Rose magazine) about why the film matters so much 30 years later. You can listen to the podcast or watch them talk on Youtube.

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Singer Eleri Ward Interview

Listen (or watch) the latest Red Room Podcast when Scott Ryan interviews musician Eleri Ward about her latest CD, A Perfect Little Death, which contains all songs written by Stephen Sondheim. She plays them on guitar and has reworked the tracks in a very interesting way. If you listen to the podcast, you will get samples of the tracks we discuss, if you watch the Youtube video you will see us laugh and smile. It is up to you. Please consider supporting Eleri at her website. Press Play below to listen or head out to iTunes and download.

Listen to more Sondheim podcasts. Matt Zoller Seitz and Scott Ryan talk about Sondheim’s passing.

Scott Ryan interviews author Alexandra Jacobs about her Elaine Stritch Biography.

Scott Ryan interviews Cyrille Amiee about her Sondheim Jazz CD.

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Sondheim Podcast Tribute

Scott Ryan (The Sondheim Review, Moonlighting: An Oral History) interviews Matt Zoller Seitz (RogerEbert.com, Vulture) about the passing of Broadway legend Stephen Sondheim. They discuss how they each discovered the music of Sondheim, talk Company, and read a few lyrics from the man that wrote Sweeney Todd, Into The Woods, Sunday in the Park with George and lyrics for West Side Story.

The podcast begins with Scott Ryan explaining how Sondheim even influenced the theme song to The Red Room Podcast. Below are links to other times Scott has done podcasts about Sondheim.

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Listen to the Cyrille Aimee interview about her Sondheim CD.

Listen to the interview with Alexandra Jacobs who wrote the Elaine Stritch Bio.

You can also watch us talk on Youtube.